Pitanje
mladiluk | 11 Septembar, 2007 23:32
Zanima me da li je moguće da se neko u komentaru potpiše kao Mladi Luk, iako je to moj nick i adresa mog bloga. Jer, nisam baš vješt u svemu ovome, a kad ostavljam komentare na drugim blogovima nigdje se ne traži da upišem svoju šifru. To omogućava nekome ko nije Mladi Luk da komentariše i da se potpiše kao Mladi Luk čak i ako je Stari Luk, ili ako uopšte nije luk, čak i ako uopšte nije povrće. Molio bih nekoga ko se razumije u ove stvari da mi objasni u komentaru. Hvala.
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Re: Pitanje
hyperblogger | 11/09/2007, 23:53
da, kao sto vidis, moze.
hyperblogger
mladiluk | 12/09/2007, 00:10
Hvala na pomoći. Sad ću i ja probati da se potpišem kao ti i da ostavim link za tvoj blog. Ako ispadne da je to moguće, onda je ostavljanje komentara opasan posao. Nemoj zamjeriti na ovom eksperimentu, ali i tebi će koristiti.
Re: Pitanje
mladiluk | 12/09/2007, 00:12
Ha, odlično. Ipak ne može. Ostavio sam tvoj link, ali je izašla adresa mog bloga. Moram pitati nekog šefa ovdje kako to sve ide. Hvala još jednom :)).
Re: Pitanje
zaboravi | 12/09/2007, 00:49
Ovaj mail sam prije nekoliko dana poslala administratorima Bloga:
"Na mom postu Dugine boje noc pojavio se neko potpisan kao Goca. Misleci da je to nasa Goca bla bla bla odgovorila sam joj, ali se ona kasnije oglasila i napisala da to nije bila ona.
To me je nagnalo na razmisljanje da bilo ko moze biti ti ili ja, ja mogu biti Bubi, Tale, Veshtica ili kako vec pozelim..jer je dovoljno samo da ostavim link koji vodi do mog bloga i to je to..zar ne. u tu svrhu pokusacu sada, experimentalno da budem ti i na mom blogu cu ostaviti komentar, koji cu kasnije obrisati.
Sve ovo pisem u svrhu zastite blogera i predlazem svi mi koji imamo korisnicko ime u tom dijelu, umjesto linka ukucamo lozinku.
Razmisli moze doci do silne zbrke.
dok se utvrdi...prosao voz..
Goca, blog Poslije ljubavi
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Probala. i može:)
eto, slično razmišljamo, drago mi je:))
Mladi Luk
mladiluk | 12/09/2007, 01:07
Pa ovo je katastrofa! Ispada da se neko može lažno predstavljati. Ovoga sam se sjetio kad sam primijetio da opada broj posjeta i broj komentara na mom blogu :). Čudi me ovakav propust. Moramo nešto uraditi da to zaustavimo i promijenimo. Hvala na pomoći.
Re: Pitanje
force | 12/09/2007, 01:14
Jedini način da se ovo spreči je da se zabrani komentarisanje neregistrovanim korisnicima, što ni jedan blog servis ne praktikuje, a i morate priznati da bi bilo glupo da se morate registrovati da bi mogli da komentarišete.
Svako za nadimak može da upiše šta želi.
E sad se svi pitate, kako da znate da li je to stvarno ta osoba.
Evo odgovora... Ukoliko je korisnik stvarno vlasnik tog imena, on ima mogućnost da se prijavi na sistem, kucajući korisničko ime i lozinku (kad pristupa admin delu). Sistem će da ga zapamti i sam će ponuditi korisničko ime (i pored imena će pisati: prijavljen), kada posle prijavljivanja ode na neki blog da ostavi komentar. Vlasnik bloga kod koga je ostavljen komentar, u listi komentara ima kolonu Prijavlje, gde može da vidi da li je taj komentar ostavljen od strane prijavljenog korisnika (što znači da je on sigurno vlasnik tog imena). Ako to ne piše, opet, ne znači da to nije stvarno ta osoba, nego se možda samo nije prijavila.
Zato vas sa vetujem da se uvek prijavite na sistem pre nego što ostavite komentar.
Nadam se da sam ovim razjasnio sve nedoumice, ukoliko ne slobodno postavite dodatna pitanja na blog forumu.
Re: Pitanje
hyperblogger | 12/09/2007, 01:16
ja se uglavnom uvek registrujem, izgleda da je to jedina sigurna zastita.
Re: Pitanje
force | 12/09/2007, 01:23
Mislim da je ovakvo rešenje, jedino moguće. Zato smo i uveli kolonu Prijavljen u listi komentara na admin delu, i stavili mogućnost da sistem pamti da li ste prijavljeni ili ne.
Ako neko ima bolju ideju neka slobodno predloži :)
Mladi Luk
mladiluk | 12/09/2007, 01:32
A kako je onda u 01:14 komentarisao lažni Mladi Luk? :)) I link vodi na blog pravog Mladog Luka. Ispada da samo vlasnik bloga na kome je ostavljen komentar može znati da li je komentar autentičan ili ne, da li ga je ostavio onaj ko je i potpisan pored komentara, a ostali posjetioci mogu biti u zabludi. Predlažem da se obavezno pored nadimka i adrese traži i ukucavanje šifre kako bismo mi registrovani bili sigurni da niko neće zloupotrebiti naš nadimak i naš blog. Mislim da je to najbolje riješenje.
Mladi Luk
mladiluk | 12/09/2007, 01:44
A ima nešto tu. Pravi Mladi Luk je mladiluk, a ovi lažni su drugačiji - mladi luk, Mladi Luk, pogledajte :).
Re: Pitanje
force | 12/09/2007, 01:48
Ako zahtevamo unošenje lozinke kod pisanja komentara, onda onemogućavamo korisnike koji nemaju blog da komentarišu.
Korisnik ima mogućnost da se prijavi, i sistem ga onda vidi kao prijavlje.
Mislim, da je bolje da se u listi komentara na blogu, pored imena pojavi (prijavljen) ako se korisnik prijavio, i na taj način će i oni koji čitaju blog znati da li je to stvarno taj korisnik. Šta misliš?
Re: Pitanje
zaboravi | 12/09/2007, 01:54
@Mladi Luk
Oprosti mi, nisam mogla da odolim. Ja sam te zezala, malo:)
Razlog je isti, o istoj stvari sam razmišljala, drago mi je da nisam usamljena u tome. Neću više, svečano obećavam:)
Mislim da se treba ipak izaći način da se zaštitimo. Kako, ne znam, ali neophodno je.
Mladi Luk
mladiluk | 12/09/2007, 02:06
#Force, mislim da bismo trebali uraditi ono što postojina drugim servisima, da omogućimo i registrovanima i neregistrovanima. Međutim, predlažem ipak i upisivanje šifre za registrovane, a ne da svako može ostaviti tuđi nadimak i tuđi link. Tada bi registrovani bili zaštićeni jer bi se link uz njihov nadimak i komentar pojavljivao samo u slučaju da su tačno upisali šifru, a bili bismo zaštićeni i od neželjenih stvari. Neregistrovani ne bi morali upisivati šifru, ali ne bi mogli ostavljati ni linkove, a to i nije važno kad i nisu blogeri, samo bi se, ako i do sad, potpisali nadimkom i to je to. Tako je i na ostalim servisima pa ne vidim zašto ne bi bilo i ovdje. Blog.co.yu ima brojne prednosti u odnosu na neke druge, ali je ovo ogroman nedostatak koji se lako može popraviti. Mislim da je to dobar predlog.
#Zaboravi, ne ljutim se ja, bilo mi je zanimljivo, a i shvatili smo kako ovo radi oko komentara pa ćemo sad možda i inicirati neke izmjene. Hvala na saradnji :)).
Re: Pitanje
dmc | 12/09/2007, 02:53
Pa uvek autor moze da proveri da li je korisnik bio prijavljen pod tim nickom u admin delu!! gde su komentari!!.. Tu su i IP adrese a postoji i ekipa bloga, koja moze pomoc u slocajunekog spora ;)nadam se da nece biti to potrebno!!..
Pitanje
Domacica | 12/09/2007, 08:50
Ne znam zašto neko želi da bude onaj ko nije, ali ako i na blogovima moramo stavljati katance, lance i još koješta, daleko smo dogurali!
Re: Pitanje
bubi | 12/09/2007, 11:31
Oni koji te citaju prepoznaju tvoj stil... ne brini.:)))
Mladi Luk
mladiluk | 12/09/2007, 17:42
E, ljudi, imam ispod ovog posta, ili prije ovoga, jedan odličan. Malo je duža priča, ali kažu neki da im se sviđa. Pa ako vam je dosadno...
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Re: Pitanje
mladi luk | 11/09/2007, 23:53
hm, pa ja mislim da moze.
ali nisam sto posto sigurna.
jedini nacin je da probam, pa cu evo probati da se potpisem kao stari luk iako sam hyperblogger.